Soccerball Therad

[endar]

maybe they'll be the most morally superior nation on earth by then

[dng]

jordan henderson's great big anus

[dng]

i'm not sure why i said that but i did

[blombluss]

I think it needed to be said, and it has enriched the discussion.

[blombluss]

What will Saudi Arabia's World Cup mascot be? A woman stoned to death?

Evil fuckers.

[dng]

this might be the stupidest thing ever

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67314370

no birthdays

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i hope if man united lose on christmas eve ten hag goes round rashford's house and confiscates all his presents

[endar]

that sounds like standard premier league bullshit tbh, not surprised at all.

Like they have to go to training on christmas day, to prepare for the boxing day match

[blombluss]

I hope they wear silly jumpers and paper hats when training on Chrinton Day.

[vom]

I hope they have to unwrap their boots and shinpads and that instead of a ball they use a live turkey

[dng]

i hoep the christmas crackes have had all the jokes removed just in case someone smiles

[blombluss]

I hope to see Tony Pulis setting fire to a Christmas tree whilst dressed up as James Bond.

[endar]

Harry Redknapp displaying his bargain watches for sale on every tree he sees

[vom]

Of course he's only Harry Redknapp because of Coca Cola's branding, traditionally he would have been Harry Greenknapp

[dng]

excellent

[dng]

theres an fa cup match on the tele. Cray Valley Paper Mills might be the best shit football team name yet

[Bruce Sato]

That's in my neck of the woods - all the little places with the river Cray running through them, up to Crayford (where we lived when I was very very small) where it joins the Darent. Paper mills and gunpowder works were the big local industries back in the day.

My uncle (my aunt's husband) who died a year ago was from Foot's Cray and the only member of the family who actually came from the Dartford / Crayford / Sidcup area where my parents and my mum's brother ended up living. Although he and my aunt moved to Aylesbury in the 60s with all the new town development creating jobs there.

Best football chat.

[richschnauzer]

Bruce what is difference between Men of Kent and Kentish Men?

[vom]

I like paper.

[richschnauzer]

Wayne Lineker goes down well at CrouchFest

[Bruce Sato]

Bruce what is difference between Men of Kent and Kentish Men?

Men of Kent live east of the Medway, Kentish Men west of it (making me one of the latter). The story is that it relates to the fact that Kent east of the Medway negotiated with William the Conqueror to keep their own customs (gavelkind etc.) and weren't actually conquered, hence why Kent has the motto 'Invicta' (Unconquered) on its crest. This story seems quite old (Francis Grose mentions it) but I don't know how much truth there is in it - although gavelkind did survive in Kent when other local laws and customs elsewhere didn't, so who knows.

Somehow I initially added this direct to your original post, and then nearly warned you. I am the master of buttons this day.

[richschnauzer]

Bruce what is difference between Men of Kent and Kentish Men?

Men of Kent live east of the Medway, Kentish Men west of it (making me one of the latter). The story is that it relates to the fact that Kent east of the Medway negotiated with William the Conqueror to keep their own customs (gavelkind etc.) and weren't actually conquered, hence why Kent has the motto 'Invicta' (Unconquered) on its crest. This story seems quite old (Francis Grose mentions it) but I don't know how much truth there is in it - although gavelkind did survive in Kent when other local laws and customs elsewhere didn't, so who knows.

Somehow I initially added this direct to your original post, and then nearly warned you. I am the master of buttons this day.

thank ye kindly bruce. Very helpful and useful to know. I always forget how big Kent really is - the southern Yorkshire. (even had coal mines)

[Bruce Sato]

Having looked into it in more detail, it appears that the distinction wasn't made until the 18th century - the story about the inhabitants of Kent meeting William the Conqueror at Swanscombe and negotiating a settlement is in William Camden's 'Britannia' in the late 16th century, but nothing is said about two groups. Some notes by Samuel Pegge from 1736 allude to it - though, pace Wikipedia, he doesn't seem to actually discuss or explain it. There's a poem by Kit Smart from 1758 that refers to 'These Kentish Men, those Men of Kent'. The 1788 second edition of Francis Grose's 'Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue' discusses the two terms and has the Medway as the dividing line, and this then gets picked up thereafter - there's a 'funny' article in the Times in 1790 which uses the distinction as its basis, presumably drawing on Grose for inspiration. Everything else seems to have accreted to the story thereafter. I would guess the whole thing arose because people felt there ought to be a reason why these two terms coexist - but the reason is just that the word 'Kentish' exists and therefore gives you an alternative to 'men of Kent' that doesn't exist for most counties. Cornwall and Lancashire are the ones that come to mind.

Even better football chat than before.

[endar]

What about Men of Kentish Town

[blombluss]

What about Clark Kent or Clark Kentish?

[vom]

Is it true that if you want to refer to both Kentish Men and Men of Kent, the correct combined term is a "a bunch of kents, the lot of ya"?

[dng]

Can we just fuck VAR off now?

[dng]

the only solution to var will be more var

[dng]

the world on repeat

[dng]

Last nights match was two hours long but only had 47 minutes of football in it apparently

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Best sport

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Even listening to it on the radio was so boring I switched it off

[dng]

Forever

[blombluss]

Was really hoping the Man City v Young Boys match would be more one-sided so I could make an absolutely brilliant "man against boys" joke that I'm sure nobody else in the world thought of

But alas

The football 'LIVE' page o' tonight's Guardian:

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Andy T lays out the gag of the night: “Hi John, sure I’m not the first but it really could be Man v Boys out there tonight?”
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A n3ta reader, obvs.

[blombluss]

Last nights match was two hours long but only had 47 minutes of football in it apparently

It's like watching Poirot on ITV3 - a two hour time slot, but drenched in advert breaks.

[dng]

poirot doesn't need video assistance to get it right in the end

[Pual]

Poirot going upfield for a last minute corner

[dng]

Was really hoping the Man City v Young Boys match would be more one-sided so I could make an absolutely brilliant "man against boys" joke that I'm sure nobody else in the world thought of

But alas

The football 'LIVE' page o' tonight's Guardian:

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Andy T lays out the gag of the night: “Hi John, sure I’m not the first but it really could be Man v Boys out there tonight?”
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A n3ta reader, obvs.

from th ebbc report on that match:

"By far the most entertaining aspect of this game, from a Young Boys perspective at least, was the atmosphere created by their supporters.

The fans in the lower two tiers choreographed their entrance just before kick-off, so those in the higher section came in first, all wearing what appeared to be matching yellow ponchos. Then came those in the lower tier, wearing black, to match their team's colours.

Part way through the opening period, they all turned their back on the game, before taking the ponchos off and twirling them round their heads. Those on the top followed that by throwing them down on those below.

The display was colourful and inventive, which is more than could be said for their team."

[dng]

i hope young boys lose every game they ever play forever from now on

[blombluss]

poirot doesn't need video assistance to get it right in the end

It turned out that the referee was the poisoner.

[blombluss]

I approve of Thomas Tuchel's comb over.

That is all.

[blombluss]

Hairy Kane is going to score 2 bajillion goal this season

[blombluss]

Emma Hayes has taken the USA women's job. I think it'll improve 'em, an' all.

[blombluss]

I presume Man City have more expensive lawyers than Everton, so that's why Everton have copped a 10 point deduction?

[dng]

everton are just copying southend

[dng]

by being so inept they can't even hide their failures

[dng]

hopefully the fa are just using this as a trial run and now their point deduction ray is working they'll point it at man city and chelsea and dissolve them into dust until they're never spoken of again

[dng]

also newcastle and, i don't know, spurs

[dng]

just because it'd be funny

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... accused-of

even if this is presumably nothing to do with spurs

[dng]

and then all the clubs that own multiple clubs can get disintegrated too (sorry forest, brentford, bournemouth, palce, leicester, brighton, etc but its your own fault, it really is)