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Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:24 pm
by blombluss
"Doctor Who's Very First Story Won't Be Part of the BBC's Streaming Archive"
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/doctor-w ... ccounter=1
My favourite bit is this:
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[Rights holder Stef] Coburn further stated that as part of his continued claim against the BBC he plans to sell his father’s rights relating to “An Unearthly Child” to “an ENEMY of the BBC, possessing ALL the resources required to act against them.”
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And according to a podcast I was listening to that mentioned the story, the ENEMY he's referring to is... Russia!

Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:47 pm
by dng
Yes. He sounds delightful
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:49 pm
by Bruce Sato
His brain madness got him banned from Wikipedia years ago. I strongly suspect the BBC is just waiting for him to keel over.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:42 pm
by blombluss
If I owned the rights to An Unearthly Child, I'd only allow the show to be broadcast on the moon.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:40 pm
by richschnauzer
Still, it at least led to this magnificent moment of lunacy:

Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:46 pm
by blombluss
Wow... that's... blimeys!

Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:31 pm
by dng
All the other doctor who episodes are on the iplayer now
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:32 pm
by dng
Which means I can spend all winter watching alll the doctor who episodes I've never seen before
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:32 pm
by dng
Even the terribly animated versions of the lost ones
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:33 pm
by dng
(I'm not going to watch those it's okay)
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:35 pm
by dng
Anyway at the moment I'm watching the edge of destruction. The tardis is broken, everyone has amnesia, and William Hartnell is being an absolute bastard to absolutely everyone. Wonderful stuff
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:46 pm
by dng
This ended with the very greatest plot reveal ever: doctor who had left the "travel back to the beginning of time" button on
so then he turned it off
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:49 pm
by Bruce Sato
Watch the animated Fury from the Deep just so you can see everyone with terrifying gibbon arms.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:49 pm
by blombluss
Woo! Spearhead From Space, here I come!
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:53 pm
by dng
the keys of marinus - terry nation has six episodes to do as many different random science fiction plots and places as possible (acid seas! sentient plants! snow! and so on), which he does pretty well, even if doctor who isn't even in half of them
does have these amazing brain creatures though

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so it gets a 10 out of 10 from me
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:54 pm
by dng
i wish i was one of those brain things
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:40 pm
by blombluss
I'd like to see one of those brain things on 90 Day Fiancé.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:31 am
by dng
unfortunately they're all dead now
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:39 pm
by blombluss
In which case, they'd fit in perfectly on the show!

Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:36 pm
by dng
The Sensorites - Episodes 1 and 2: Doctor Who lands on a spaceship where the crew are all being psychically manipulated into abject fear by mysterious aliens beyond their comprehension and its kinf of weird and unsettling and intriguing. Episodes 3-6: Everyone forgets entirely about all of this and instead they just hang around on a planet with the aliens, who have by now been revealed to be weird old men who are scared of the dark and loud noises for some reason
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:37 pm
by dng
anyway i still liked it, even if the first two episodes (or really probably just the first episode actually) were much more interesting than the rest of it, which seemed to be plotted almost at random half the time.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:39 pm
by dng
also i watched the aztecs one, which i thought i'd seen before but i hadn't (i must have read the book when i was little, i assume, although i don't even seem to have the book so maybe i didn't)
this was bloody brilliant, mostly because the baddy is incredible, just some guy having great fun being some absurdly theatrical shakespearean villain ultra iago-ing all over the screen for a month.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:24 am
by richschnauzer
dng wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:39 pm
also i watched the aztecs one, which i thought i'd seen before but i hadn't (i must have read the book when i was little, i assume, although i don't even seem to have the book so maybe i didn't)
this was bloody brilliant, mostly because the baddy is incredible, just some guy having great fun being some absurdly theatrical shakespearean villain ultra iago-ing all over the screen for a month.
He went on to play Penny's dad in Just Good Friends and the man in the Terrys Chocolate Orange Raiders of the Lost Ark spoof advert. John Ringham, what an actor.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:25 am
by richschnauzer
Anyway, I got as far as Enemy of the World and I'm having a break as Milton Johns gives me the heebie jeebies.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:15 pm
by dng
This article is pretty infuriating
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... hem-to-bbc
although it does also have a sort of "we'll only show you our perpetual motion machine when we've been granted a patent based on nothing whatsoever" vibe about it as well
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:17 pm
by dng
"of course we've got loads of lost doctor who episodes but you can't have them because you'll send us to jail and also when we die our relatives will just throw them away for some reason and it's all the bbc's fault"
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:17 pm
by dng
well i hope the bbc do throw them in jail now
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:19 pm
by dng
and their children
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:48 pm
by dng
Planet Of Giants - Honey, I Shrunk The Tardis
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:57 pm
by dng
Contains an excellent cat
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:21 pm
by richschnauzer
dng wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:15 pm
This article is pretty infuriating
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... hem-to-bbc
although it does also have a sort of "we'll only show you our perpetual motion machine when we've been granted a patent based on nothing whatsoever" vibe about it as well
person quoted says the story is bollocks
https://x.com/drwhopodcasters/status/17 ... 36050?s=20
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:33 pm
by endar
the bbc should have archived them in the first place shouldn't they
even people who were in the shows who wanted copies for themselves, the bbc refused them. They actively went out of their way to destroy stuff. So sometimes the cast/crew would sneak stuff out. The bbc should be thankful they did
fucking short sighted idiots
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:32 pm
by dng
well yes
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:26 pm
by endar
i'm glad you agreer
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:59 pm
by dng
i agree with everyone
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:00 pm
by dng
about everything
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:00 pm
by dng
its my new philosophy
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:37 pm
by blombluss
dng wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:59 pm
i agree with everyone
YOU MONSTER!

Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:08 pm
by dng
I am, yes
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:16 pm
by dng
The Rescue - only two episodes long, and pretty slight I suppose, but does contain two pretty great monsters and an oddly baffling ending

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Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:50 pm
by blombluss
Vertical monster is pure nightmare fuel!
Horizontal monster is a bit of a cutie!

Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:16 pm
by CandyDarling
endar wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:33 pm
the bbc should have archived them in the first place shouldn't they
even people who were in the shows who wanted copies for themselves, the bbc refused them. They actively went out of their way to destroy stuff. So sometimes the cast/crew would sneak stuff out. The bbc should be thankful they did
fucking short sighted idiots
I recall that when Peter Cook heard they were going to wipe most of Not Only But Also, he offered to buy the tapes off the BBC. They refused. He then also offered to cover the cost of brand new tapes that could replace the ones they were going to wipe. They still refused. Monty Python also came within a hair's breadth of getting wiped, until the BBC made loads of sales of it to America. Before that, the Pythons actually made the backup plan of dubbing the shows they'd made so far onto early domestic video formats of the time (U-Matic, etc).
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:28 pm
by dng
this graham chapman/douglas adams thing only survives because graham chapman recorded it off the telly onto whatever weird video player he had at the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saxhV4gzm5c
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:34 pm
by CandyDarling
Ah yeah, Out Of The Trees. It's a bit like a lost Python episode with just Chapman, and all the other usual parts played by different people. Before the recording was discovered, only the script remained and some weird American bloke claimed he had full copyright over it.
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:37 pm
by endar
CandyDarling wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:16 pm
endar wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:33 pm
the bbc should have archived them in the first place shouldn't they
even people who were in the shows who wanted copies for themselves, the bbc refused them. They actively went out of their way to destroy stuff. So sometimes the cast/crew would sneak stuff out. The bbc should be thankful they did
fucking short sighted idiots
I recall that when Peter Cook heard they were going to wipe most of Not Only But Also, he offered to buy the tapes off the BBC. They refused. He then also offered to cover the cost of brand new tapes that could replace the ones they were going to wipe. They still refused. Monty Python also came within a hair's breadth of getting wiped, until the BBC made loads of sales of it to America. Before that, the Pythons actually made the backup plan of dubbing the shows they'd made so far onto early domestic video formats of the time (U-Matic, etc).
I read the same or something very similar to this. it's truly mind-boggling why they'd go to such lengths to destroy and wipe. It's almost as if they were afraid of something. Naughty unspeakable things going on behind the scenes getting caught on camera, for instance. Wouldn't want that getting out
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:59 pm
by dng
Doctor Who and the Dakeks - IN COLOUR
I've only watched the first 20 minutes of this but I'm not sure what the point of it is really. Weirdly garish colours, but at the expense of visual clarity (everything seems to have smudgy blurred 70s video artefacts on it), plus shite new music (I think), plus edited to oblivion (2 and a half hours or so down to 75 minutes).
Worst of all is an absolutely terrible Marvel moveies style ident at the start, with loads of doctor who scenes wrapped round big letters spelling out WHO, that then morphs into saying WHONIVERSE. Just incomprehensibly terrible, and presumably now going to be appended to the start of absolutely all dr who things forever
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:59 pm
by dng
I bet this is all disneys fault
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:00 pm
by dng
(Or just some new Russell T Davies madness I suppose)
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:00 pm
by dng
What the fuck does WHONIVERSE even mean
Re: Dr Who and the first 4 episodes on BBC iPlayer
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:10 pm
by dng
I've watched it all now and it was awful