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words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 3:10 am
by An Unicorn
This is a quozzy-resurrection of the thread I started on the other board those many years ago, because I am still finding Things That Need Words.

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 3:18 am
by An Unicorn
1. The linguistic phenomenon of literally invoking an idiom that has become nearly (but not entirely) obsolete in its classical sense to the extent that the lay person might not know it's the actual origin of the phrase.

For instance, I watched a video of an organist literally pulling out all the stops and then deafening himself because playing all the instruments fortissimo at the same time is very loud and awful.

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 3:04 pm
by dng
I like words where you only have the negative form left, and whatever it's negating is long since lost

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 3:04 pm
by dng
Like gormless

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:22 pm
by blombluss
An Unicorn wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 3:18 am 1. The linguistic phenomenon of literally invoking an idiom that has become nearly (but not entirely) obsolete in its classical sense to the extent that the lay person might not know it's actual origin of the phrase.

For instance, I watched a video of an organist literally pulling out all the stops and then deafening himself because playing all the instruments fortissimo at the same time is very loud and awful.
Heh! :)

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:25 pm
by blombluss
dng wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 3:04 pm I like words where you only have the negative form left, and whatever it's negating is long since lost
I was going to say a bit like 'disgruntled', but 'gruntled' is a legit word, apparently. :)

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:27 pm
by dng
its not though is it

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:27 pm
by dng
he's lost his gorm but found his gruntles

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:30 pm
by An Unicorn
Would "overwhelm" count? Since apparently "whelm" was once a word but now has zero currency on its own without over.

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:31 pm
by dng
Maybe but also maybe underwhelm's simultaneous existence disqualifies it

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:31 pm
by dng
I am adequately whelmed

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by An Unicorn
But how is your gruntling?

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:45 pm
by dng
ungrunted

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 12:09 am
by endar
Scrutable

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:51 am
by An Unicorn
Feck

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:51 am
by An Unicorn
(feck off)

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm
by blombluss
dng wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:27 pmits not though is it
It so is! So there! :p

Re: words for the wordless

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 2:21 pm
by blombluss
The Credible Shrinking Man and The Visible Man are bets films.